tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post6171511979781918214..comments2024-02-05T20:24:32.145-05:00Comments on "Hero Envy" The Blog Adventures: HULK VS JUGGERNAUTJohn Ciminohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10737574058335177140noreply@blogger.comBlogger84125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-82958861138730321242020-10-22T12:23:32.902-04:002020-10-22T12:23:32.902-04:00We dont know what kind of power Cain is using now ...We dont know what kind of power Cain is using now and with what rules. We know he had lost all powers when Magik depowered him, then he gave his armor away to the Crossroads to get back from his exile. What conditions he had to obtain this new one from Cyttorak are still unknown, and the last time they met the demon was not very happy with Cain from what i remember...i would not consider this Cain on par with the Trion one, for example, so by historical comparisons, we cant exactly call this the "most powerful Juggs ever". Other times Juggs had been going for a redemption arc himself, just like this time, he never really had the full backing of the demon either. Cyttorak gives power proportionally to the ammount of destruction and chaos his avatar is causing in his name, canonically speaking. Just going around destroying ruined buildings on demand would not count as doing his lord good work i think.<br /><br />If i wanted to accept and preserve both brands, and make them work, i would say Hulk has stronger punching power, but no pushing power can really stop the Juggernaut as any opposite force would be added to his own kinetic energy, and his durability would also be similarly magically increased so he "cant be stopped" even in a "punched out" sense, just slown down, BFR or mentally/emotionally manipulated into stopping himself, or magically depowered somehow by cutting off his source. So while Hulk punches harder, Juggs is still a contender, and in a pushing contest magic and narrative would have to favour him. In a punching exchange, Juggs would not hit harder, but could take what the Hulk dishes out. Hulk would not get hit as hard as he dishes out, but he wouldnt be able to keep Juggs down either. Eventually one or the other would have to work out how to stop the contest in other ways, to break out of a stalemate of strongest vs unstoppable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-29299233818196711382020-10-22T12:17:33.203-04:002020-10-22T12:17:33.203-04:00I told you people for years, Hulk is stronger than...I told you people for years, Hulk is stronger than Juggernaut!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-10631035032877103732019-07-27T09:39:01.268-04:002019-07-27T09:39:01.268-04:00Sick and tired of dese jugy fanboys. Hulk has and ...Sick and tired of dese jugy fanboys. Hulk has and always culd beat juggs. <a href="http://1001battle.com/juggernaut-vs-hulk.html" rel="nofollow">Hulk wins Juggernaut 10/10</a>.Jacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-35028829946027465522019-05-21T19:24:01.889-04:002019-05-21T19:24:01.889-04:00Yes. Thor totally "KO"ed Juggy. Hell, he...Yes. Thor totally "KO"ed Juggy. Hell, he even defeated Namor in the same issue. That was crazy!John Ciminohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10737574058335177140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-14263555546360142022019-05-02T12:49:34.810-04:002019-05-02T12:49:34.810-04:00Savage Hulk is the real Hulk. The other versions ...Savage Hulk is the real Hulk. The other versions are fun for a while, but I wouldn't want them for too long, as they do wear out their welcome.dbutler16https://www.blogger.com/profile/00046066729353639991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-79883450573347775532019-04-04T13:43:24.476-04:002019-04-04T13:43:24.476-04:00Yup.Yup.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-28248231901366648622018-10-13T23:29:47.244-04:002018-10-13T23:29:47.244-04:00Thor knocking out Juggernaut was awesome!!
Wasn&#...Thor knocking out Juggernaut was awesome!!<br /><br />Wasn't the Juggernaut in the Temple of Cyttorak, making him stronger? Wasn't he, Juggernaut, bragging that he was more powerful than ever? Thor totally took him out!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-12650865311219972332017-10-17T23:04:17.621-04:002017-10-17T23:04:17.621-04:00Thanks so much for sharing this awesome info! watc...Thanks so much for sharing this awesome info! <a href="http://kisscartoon.yt" rel="nofollow">watchcartoononline</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098735791483286616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-32354020083401063982017-08-12T08:48:36.788-04:002017-08-12T08:48:36.788-04:00I never knew why their was such a debate on the st...I never knew why their was such a debate on the strength comparison between the Hulk and Juggernaut. I always knew it was the Juggernaut's magical force of irresistiblity that made him such a tough opponent. Although he is plenty strong, he has never been portrayed to be above Hulk, Thor and the rest of the CLASS 100 guys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-73325684790300624682017-04-07T21:18:38.133-04:002017-04-07T21:18:38.133-04:00Thanks... uhhh, I think?Thanks... uhhh, I think?John Ciminohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10737574058335177140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-68791207439963486032016-12-16T13:37:24.902-05:002016-12-16T13:37:24.902-05:00The first time I saw these two fight was in Hulk #...The first time I saw these two fight was in Hulk #172. It seemed like in that issue the Juggernaut was more powerful. He seemed to get the better of the Hulk at first. As the Hulk got madder he got stronger. Then the Hulk got the better of Juggernaut. The was result was the Hulk won because he spun Juggy around and threw him into a mountain removing his helmet. In all actuality it was a tie. Juggy because of his protective force field was never hurt. They traded blows pretty evenly. Throughout the years Hulk always seemed to get the better of Juggy depending on who wrote the fight. A great heavyweight match up. One of the best. Right up there with Hulk versus Thor or the Thing. Thor versus Juggy was always good to. Juggy held his own against Thor without his force field once. Even Thor was impressed.<br /><br />The difference. They are both strong but the Hulk can get stronger as the fight goes on. Juggy can take more punishment because of his force field. The Hulk feels more pain than Juggy. The old irresistable force meets the immovable object. IMO the Hulk, Thor and Juggernaut are pretty much all pretty close. If vegas laid down money lines any fight between these three would be even money. Of course their power levels have all varied throughout the years. The Hulk vs The Juggernaut is just a great fight period. One of the best. <br /><br />One other tidbit. In WWH the only two characters that could stand up to the Hulk were Sentry and the Juggernaut. The Hulk had to outsmart Juggy to win a quick fight. This is the same Hulk who beat the living crap out of everybody including Black Bolt who he beat to a pulp.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-84249389581080147432016-12-15T06:20:58.209-05:002016-12-15T06:20:58.209-05:00This article has to be the crowning achievement in...This article has to be the crowning achievement in the whole Hulk vs. Juggernaut debate that has been going on for years. The thing that makes it so impressive is that the author writes using logic, facts and truth. Three things fanboys tend to not ever use in their constant debates and rants. They always come from their narrow interpretation and preference regardless of what the actual comic-book states. Reading all the comments on this thread is absolutely laughable on what they want the story to say than what it actually does say. It's so pathetic actually and perfect in its stupidity.<br /><br />Not to get all political in a comic debate but this is what the "Black Lives Matter" followers suffer from. Do they even know the actual facts and statistics from the truth they are told? Do they even want to know or care? This is what the Juggernaut-fanboy suffers from. Lack of facts and statistics to show the truth. This article does just that and has to be an absolute crush to them. <br /><br />I have to thank the author for crushing the Juggernaut-fanboy with actual facts and logic, it was beautiful and will be passed on. The Hulk smashes them and the millennials that now plagued the world.<br /><br />-JIMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-77523924166813918042016-09-15T13:32:09.776-04:002016-09-15T13:32:09.776-04:00I think the Hulk wins because he is just stronger ...I think the Hulk wins because he is just stronger than Cytorrak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-70985122039201583602016-09-09T21:43:22.960-04:002016-09-09T21:43:22.960-04:00Reality is the Hulk wins because he is the good gu...Reality is the Hulk wins because he is the good guy. I am a Juggernaut fan and the way they list his powers he should always win in a straight up fight. I am not saying that he is stronger than the Hulk, I am saying that strength is a moot point. According to the listing of the Juggernaut, he is invulnerable to physical attacks, i.e. the Hulks strength. The problem is that the writers of these books want the Hulk to win because he is the good guy, but they want him to be challenged, so they bring in the Juggernaut, not even knowing the bio that has been written up on him, then they do stupid things with him. He has a force field which deflected a sneak attack by Spiderman using his webbing and stopped Thor's hammer, yet he forgets to use it EVERY TIME against the Hulk, really? Dumb. As far as pushing him back, again, who is the writer of the story? A Hulk writer of course! Anything to push the anthem that the Hulk is the strongest! I think it is stupid that the Hulk and Juggernaut fans (of which I am one) are calling each other idiots. These are fictional characters and they live at the whim of the writer of the book. If the Juggernaut was the good guy and the Hulk the bad guy, the Juggernaut would win nearly every time. Plus the Juggernaut has been upgraded to be even more powerful then ever before by Cyttorak, an evil god.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09610532464276552563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-27986564077178596312016-01-19T13:13:38.036-05:002016-01-19T13:13:38.036-05:00I always thought it was the Juggernaut's invul...I always thought it was the Juggernaut's invulnerability that was his main asset his strength was below Thor, Hulk and Hercules. Not sure he is physically stronger than any of the true heaveyweights of Marvel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-78106587401094978632016-01-18T20:36:48.286-05:002016-01-18T20:36:48.286-05:00Proof is in the pudding, Juggernaut is below Hulk ...Proof is in the pudding, Juggernaut is below Hulk and that's the way it will always be. Some fanboys can't live with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-25398287733796385902015-12-21T08:16:18.701-05:002015-12-21T08:16:18.701-05:00Juggernaut fanboys are almost as bad as Thor fanbo...Juggernaut fanboys are almost as bad as Thor fanboys and both can't take that the Hulk is the favorite in these match ups. Hulk is the strongest because Marvel says so and it doesn't matter what other powers he has because - MARVEL SAYS SO! They are all their characters so they can do what they please with them regardless of what some lame-ass fanboy thinks. <br /><br />Welcome to reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-77946433718937573972015-12-19T08:15:51.614-05:002015-12-19T08:15:51.614-05:00"This was only a normal reaction of a body be..."This was only a normal reaction of a body being moved, not being injured."<br /><br />First off, I had to rewrite that staement just to know it was real.<br /><br />Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!! <br /><br />That is the funniest reply on this entire page!! <br /><br />Hahahahahahahahahaha! <br /><br />I'm going to tell you that I'm sorry beforehand to call you an idiot, but you my good sir -- "are an idiot"!! <br /><br />lololololololo!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-45549924921561834442015-12-19T08:08:58.611-05:002015-12-19T08:08:58.611-05:00"Assuming"??? Maybe you should read this..."Assuming"??? Maybe you should read this article again and see all the proof there is to to prove this! Man, you are another delusional fanboy with no hope. LOL!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-19275119319722226132015-12-18T19:52:26.459-05:002015-12-18T19:52:26.459-05:00" assuming " that hulk is stronger , he ..." assuming " that hulk is stronger , he still could not hurt the invulnerable juggernaut .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-25758086092281888982015-12-18T19:47:01.707-05:002015-12-18T19:47:01.707-05:00no, he doesn´t. That was only the normal reaction ...no, he doesn´t. That was only the normal reaction of a body being moved, not being injured.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-75940699721421662322015-12-14T13:18:36.248-05:002015-12-14T13:18:36.248-05:00Maybe you should reread this article fanboy?Maybe you should reread this article fanboy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-80344362486686227492015-12-14T13:17:20.304-05:002015-12-14T13:17:20.304-05:00And yet he screamed out in pain when the Hulk hit ...And yet he screamed out in pain when the Hulk hit him. Somebody help this guy he needs a clue??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-55740106275573840242015-12-13T13:48:34.960-05:002015-12-13T13:48:34.960-05:00¿Where do you get that Hulk regenerates faster tha...¿Where do you get that Hulk regenerates faster than Juggernaut , Hulk is more durable than someone who CAN NOT BE DEFEATED BY PHYSICAL FORCE??.<br />Juggernaut doen't feel pain when he get punched.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9005099578513777759.post-36430130971011024572015-12-13T13:43:19.679-05:002015-12-13T13:43:19.679-05:00you or any fan of Hulk Hulk matter which way Hulk ...you or any fan of Hulk Hulk matter which way Hulk wins, either with the intervention of Charles Xavier , or X men, or been increased his strength by apocalypse, or whatever.<br />You do not care if juggernaut dominated throughout the fight , if Juggernaut shown stronger or resistant , or wins by knockout or a simple " drop " or " BFR " .<br />I've never seen a real fan of Hulk give reasons as to why Hulk wins this match.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com